is there a fade between presets function? it seems like it kinda does, but its very fast…is there a way to slow it down and smooth it out bit?
thanks!
I’m hoping the sleepy folks can chime in, but here is what I’ve learned after swapping between patches: the fade you are perceiving between patches are merely the result of one patch using a longer feedback time, which then bleeds into the second patch’s input for a few moments. You can test this by swapping between patches that have different feedback modes.
I think an actual “fade” would actually require 4 oscillators and some bi-timbral functionality (e.g. Osc 1 fades into Osc 3, Osc 2 fades into Osc 4). Maybe there would be a cool way to get around this by morphing the CCs of all parameters between patches…
Hola! welcome to the forum @napper!
I have heard this suggestion before but unfortunately it isn’t rly possible with the current Hardware.
@astropalace u are right that this potentially requires a doubling of the engine capabilities that isn’t really possible on the very limited Hypno processor. Otherwise a sort of preset lerp may be possible but likely this would need some sort of new crossfader/preset manager ui + some way to preview what youre about to morph to so its unlikely it would make it into the current hardware but this sort of thing is definitely on my radar for vidOS or future products. Also video sampling would not be morphable without being able to decode two videos at once (this is not possible on the current hardware at a reasonable framerate so they would still hard cut with a parameter lerp).
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What about a fade to and from black as a compromise?
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I think of the Hypno like a turntable, I do my transitions on a mixer. But I mainly run video clips and don’t spend much time with shapes. This is my live set up I use when I dj. But I started out with the Hypno and video clips on my phone.
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That’s a heck of a setup! So cool!
What do you think of Eyesy? I like the idea a lot, but it seems to need a lot of gain for the reactive stuff to look interesting. And unless I’m not understanding something, most of the presets seem to really need you to be actively adjusting stuff - there’s no set it and forget it presets.
I’ve only used it a couple times, so it’s quite likely that there something I missed… or it really needs more than just an audio input to realize it’s potential.
Yeah, the Eyesy is more of something I play around with, my live performances are all Hypno.
I have the Eyesy presets all midi controlled by the Digitakt. That way I can tap tempo it with some basic midi patterns playing. I’ve never really found a spot for it live, but I do like playing with it. I have 4 hdmi inputs on the Roland V4ex, so until I pick up another Hypno I’ll just keep it there for fun.
I’m a huge Elektron fan (& Hypno of course) and love the midi LFOs on the Digitakt. A single pattern on the Digitakt provides 8 midi LFOs, in which I mainly use for Color, Zoom, Rotation, Gain, luma/chroma key, and video file and folder.
To your original question, a second Hypno and a small hdmi switcher would probably go a long way for you, especially if you do live performances. It’s always nice to have a back up Hypno. I’ve learned to work with the processing limits of the Hypno, keep my clips sizes down, and having a second Hypno to crossfade to give me the ability to restart a Hypno that locks up with no one ever noticing during a performance.
I also have a cheap media player (above the left Digitakt) that is always running prepared video clips into the mixer, so I never have dead screens.
I sure love my Hypnos, they are fantastic performance tools, i hope you are enjoying yours as much is I do mine!
Thank you for all of that. I agree that a second Hypno would be a huge asset in a live improvisational performance. I haven’t done anything meaningful in a live performance context, but would like to. I have the first version of Hypno, and it’s a little embarrassing how long it took me to figure out all the extras I needed to chain into the USB to really get the most out of the system. I only just got a NanoKeys for saving presets, and it’s exactly what I’ve been dreaming of since I got Hypno.
In playing with video clips I discovered what you did- you have to keep it super short. I tend to think of it more as a texture source rather than as a full blown video player. I have other ways I can do that.
Another great mixer I’ve used with it is the Korg Entrancer. A lot of the digital transformations are pretty crunchy, but it doesn’t look out of place with Hypno generated visuals like it does with live video sources.
I love my LZX stuff, but having Hypno be more of a suite of different abilities really works for me. It’s a great core piece.
Ive projected at events rather than rock shows, so I want some set it and forget it abilities. I was hoping that Eyesy would be that, but it really want you to play it like an instrument. Structure can randomize between looks and fades to black inbetween, as does SlimShader. But I’m loving your idea of a second Hypno… getting some presets ready and getting some musical interactivity would be a hell of a show.
Thanks again for posting back!
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I spy something orange that makes a nice highlighter. I use 4 midi tracks on my OG Digitakt to switch presets on the Eyesy and largely rely on audio for modulation + setting cc 21-25 so I can also manually modulate with the DT or use the LFO’s. I’ve thought about a 2nd Hypno.
I just got a Digitone a few weeks ago and will likely switch to using that for the Eyesy.
Piano + RC-505MKII + Digitakt + Digitone + Hypno + Eyesy = No more gas
I haven’t spent much time with that little orange unit, never use it live, but I just can’t seem to find a reason to let it go. It might become one of those rainy day projects that I fall down a rabbit hole with. I’ve got a Syntakt and a Digitone sitting in another setup, maybe I should intentionally utilize the Eyesy as an art type project.
Does the Digitone push midi or are you using it as an audio source? Now I have to look, as I don’t spend much time with the Digitone either (they need more love). I spend most my time with the DTs and OT, not enough hours in a day!
I don’t know anyone with an Eyesy, so you’ve kinda reopened the idea of seriously messing around with it again, thanks!
Oh that LZX gear looks dangerous (GAS) I’ve never messed with rack gear. It’s been a bit intimidating (and expensive) , but it sure looks fun!
The OG Digitone has 4 midi tracks. I haven’t set it up to midi control anything yet (just got it a few weeks ago and knew nothing about FM synthesis + needed to familiarize with the UI). I like the DN’s sounds more than I thought I would, and I’d like to free up the 4 midi tracks I’ve been using to control the Eyesy on the Digitakt. I use my piano as the only audio modulation source for the Eyesy.
I use the Eyesy to enhance Hypno output with a Feelworld L2 video switcher to blend the 2 signals. The Eyesy has pretty simple midi implementation that doesn’t require a lot of thought. CC’s 21-25 mirror the 5 control knobs. The Eyesy also uses midi PC’s to select presets. C & G just did a big firmware update that provided a lot of new functionality. Their forum discusses a few bugs in the new FW so I haven’t updated yet, but I want to really bad simply because of the new ability to overwrite scenes (shift+save).
It’s a fun unit. Try blending it with Hypno output and you’ll see why I like it so much.
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